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Old 10-28-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default 10/27 - First real day of winter on the water. Jacksonville Fla

Ahhhhh....Cool weather! It started a few days ago, I guess. But today was winter on the water for myself and Nick. And at the same time, unfortunately it was a wet first day.
And a Full Blown Noreaster!

I met to go on Nicks boat, (his 17 Seachaser) at B&M Bait and Tackle at 8am. Where it looked like rain, and by the time we got our ice and shrimp and were ready to head to the boat ramp, it was raining.

No big deal, I brought a light rain jacket, a really old rain jacket that leaks, and was in shorts wearing of course, my Crocs. Nick was in full Frogg Toggs rain gear. The tide was high as we left with some serious rise still to come. A 6.3' High Tide, which meant a lot of fooling around till it turned, and a lot of Dave getting really wet and cold as the wind blew.

It was actually very cold out on the water. So much that through my leaky jacket, wet shorts and Crocs I needed to do something about this situation. So we headed back to the boat ramp, so I could run home real quick and get my full weather gear, and a fleece shirt for me and one for Nick...and to put on my "winter Crocs". As we got to the ramp there was others there who were calling it quits, already.

Home and back in exactly 14 minutes, I was decked out in my serious winter wear, and Nick was warmer in a fleece shirt too. So off to any where different than the first two places we tried at the super flood tide. Although a few bait stealer's, one catfish and one small Speck were caught. So as we headed north from the Oak Harbor boat ramp on our second half of the day, I suggested a spot.


And for the next several hours we sat there having a great time. I mean, ya know it's a good spot when "yours truly" flips out my first live river cricket (shrimp) on the Float-rig and it drifts 10 feet and I have a 4 pound Speck hooked up. That's a "here's yer sign" situation!
(also know as Instantaneous Gratification)

No justice is done in this photo, her belly was big and fat full of roe.


So we got real busy fishing all angles possible, and started hooking up Speck after Speck.

Some were just under 15", but most weren't.


And then of course here comes the FWC. And picking the lowest fruit on the tree is always. Even though just 30 minutes before we watched multitudes of "Ghetto Cruisers" (giant boats that throw enormous wakes) run full speed ahead through the "Minimal Wake Zone" behind the Little Jetties. So we had to go through that routine before commencing our T-rout Wackage.

I did get out of one Officer, "Holy Cow, that's a nice speckley one"....I told him that's why I fish here, keep it to yourself, Okay?

Back on track now, Nick started to wack'em damn good. Then he caught a Bluefish we thought was another big Speck, then he caught a "chipper" Flounder.....Hmmm, variety?? But as the tide got low in a real hurry. More variety came, as in the Mangrove Snapper, juvenile Grouper category. I said to Nick, "before this current gone we ought to catch a few more", and he caught 2, and I caught one.



Expectations Exceeded! Because the weather was really super crappy!

What more could two guys in full foul weather outer-wear, ask for?

It was a good day as long as the tide was falling.
Because all it took was to choose a good spot, get a little lucky and we were quickly forgetting about the weather.

It's funny how accustomed one can get to having endless amounts of room in a boat. Nick 17' Seachaser is a nice little boat. But as he said, "It sure is different huh? Your always running into something." That maybe, but I have to remember how good I have it when it's just a few of us on my boat. It's all the room you want. I saw a boat ad for a bay boat the other day, that had a slogan, "EVERY THING YOU NEED, AND NOTHING YOU DON'T" Which perfectly describes my boat, I feel.

We went no where today in Nick's 17 footer that I couldn't have gone in my 26footer. Remember Plate Alloy doesn't float heavy like a F'glass boat. So shallow water is very fishable in a 26 footer. And even though it was a tide with 2 feet higher water than normal...."shallow" was a relative term, today. We tried it, but really didn't catch what we wanted till we got into the main part of the river.


We end up with our limit easily and threw back a few small ones and keepers, kept a big Croaker, and a Bluefish for Redfish cut bait on a later trip.....and I was loving it. And will love these eats, too.

It maybe Flounder time for many, but I'm not gonna throw the cast net for hours at high tide for Mullet. My bait is Live Shrimps! And B&M had some super sweet ones today.

And those lil' bait stealing sand perch in the creeks at high tide convinced me you don't need to bitch if you get bit by a Mangrove Snapper in a creek! The Sand Perch were everywhere in the creeks we fished.

It felt 100% different on the water compared to on land. And that's a sure sign of a wintery type day. But hold on to your hats folks, because the difference "on Land" versus "on the water" for the next few days is gonna be dramatic! We're in for a Big Blow. This time of year the fronts, or Noreasters will start to pass through way more frequently. And even though it's a real pain, when they land on the days I have people reserved for, or on every single weekend. Just don't forget about how hot and miserable it was in July. Unless you like catching more Needlefish than Specks, and more Jacks and Ladyfish than Redfish, in the river around Mayport.
I know I don't. We're finally getting into "MY" time of year.
And it's spelled, T-ROUT !
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:40 AM
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great report ...keep them coming..gotta love them T_ROUT
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:49 AM
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I have to say Specks or T-rout because of those stupid Icon things...If you spell the word trout, you get that stupid smiley face hitting another smiley face over the head with obviously a T-ROUT!

I looked and wanna turn them off. Because I FISH FOR T-routz 12 months a year 2-6 days a week, if I can. But it looks as there's no turning those off.

So, Specks means Speckled Sea Trout, and T-rout means the same.

Could I use "tide runners" and have people knowing what I mean?

It's okay most know what a "Speck" is, especially if your from Texas.

But in Fla, people think your talking Crappies, cause they be called Specks in the sweet water world here.

It just takes me twice as long to do a report, since I cut and paste off my Daily Reports Blog (www.captdaves.blogspot.com) and have to change every time I use the word T-rout.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:51 AM
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Sorry, I can change that!!!

All fixed!

Just call me the FWF

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Great report. God those are beautiful fish.
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Old 10-28-2007, 02:37 PM
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Wow, thanks....Sorry I called those icons stupid, I was just frustrated.
I'm not a big cartoon kinda guy.

Capt Fred,
And these weren't really any big ones this day. I love the big un's more of course. But we have such strict laws here you're only allowed to have one over 20" per person. I'm all about how EZ they are to clean and cook, since I have to always clean people's fish.

Now when we catch a bunch of sheepshead, you'll hear me complain then. I hate cleaning them dang things. But on really Light tackle they sure do fight good, and released is what I like to see.

Float freak, out!
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Dave , Awesome post and keep'em coming.

Its good to know Trout like Alloy.

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Old 10-29-2007, 03:34 PM
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They LOVE it.....you know that!
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