V300 vs F350...

[glen e]

don't know who this guy is, but I like it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6MVsxW2GtY

[darbikrash]

I think this is from the guys over at Henley, the boats are Bahama 31's. I know when we were there last summer, they had just rigged the first 31' with T/350's and Jeff told me that the Verado boat left the Yamaha boat for dead in a drag race.

We sea trialed the Verado boat and it was very impressive.

I do know that the Yamaha boat does pick up speed in the upper rpm ranges, and has about a 2-3 mph edge over the Verado boat at top speed.

No question which is the right power for this hull though, Verado all the way. Imagine that race with the new 350 Verados?

[Angler Systems]

Lots of unknowns in the test....but I like the results.

[Kern O]

I agree, John. It sure does look like the test that Scott Henley did when they rigged the 350's.

I am on my second set of Yamaha 208's and I have never owned Verados. But if I buy 225 horsepower, I really expect to get 225 horsepower. But somehow, it is perfectly legal and ethical to lie about the power your engines make, as long as you are within 10 percent.

Now I can understand production variations of 5 horsepower in mass produced engines, but not 22 horsepower. My 208's all came with decals that said 225, so let's do some math. If Yamaha is being just as honest with what they call the 350, they ought to make about 320, but that still makes 40 more horsepower for the pair than the Verados.

So, if that 40 extra horsepower comes in late, it is no wonder than a boat with 40 more horsepower and about 500 more pounds hanging on the transom would get its butt kicked in a drag race.

Wanna see a real contest? I've got a great idea that will keep lots of folks happy! Let's put three Yamaha 225s on something and run that "675" Yamaha horsepower against 600 Verado, E-tec, Honda or Suzuki horsepower. I get to bet on the non Yamaha package...........

I think there was one bit of BS in the video. I've had helms that squeaked like that. I don't think it was power steering related. It seems to be typical of the Teleflex tilt helm.

I don't understand the marketing logic in bringing out an engine that weighs that much without it making enough horsepower to make up for the weight. I want my anchors on the front of the boat.

[glen e]

I will say I do not understand why Yam would bring out a 350 at 800 lbs and THEN DETUNE IT TO A 300 and think they would sell any 300's at all....one diff I know is personally could write merc and get you at least a co "position"...Yam is just a faceless entitiy, IMO...

It's just a fun video to watch (apparently done by Henley Marine) but anyone who thinks it's the end-all cure all is an idiot...the Yam 350 is a big boat motor - slow revving, and a barge pusher - made for a Grady 360 and such...it was never made to do a drag race....not at 900 lbs wet.......as many have asked - why not a tweaked F250 at 300-325? - Yam and the rest are diametrically opposed, IMO, everyone esle is making big HP motors for center consoles and Yam has made an engine to handle the big expresses...Hat and Bertram have been looking for 500 hp outboards they can hang on big 40 something SF's for years...Yam will get there first.....

but watch some of the other websites - this really fires em up...really wish it was an etec motor just to watch the fireworks....yes I'm an "enabler".....sorry...

have a good xmas...

[Southshore Marine Service]

The way I look at it is that different motors are built for different markets. The Yamahas are built for the boaters for running out far and doing trolling and looking for reliability as with the Verados they are more suited for the go fast boats wanting speed. Not bashing either or just how I look at it in the market.

[glen e]

Originally Posted by Southshore Marine Service

The way I look at it is that different motors are built for different markets. The Yamahas are built for the boaters for running out far and doing trolling and looking for reliability as with the Verados they are more suited for the go fast boats wanting speed. Not bashing either or just how I look at it in the market.

that may be the old stereotype and the way yam dealers want you to think, but verados are just as reliable as yams...so the "far out and troling all day" thing is just wrong - do a search of all the websites within the last 3 years and just as many Verados that are trolling long, going far and coming home and protecting you against things that yams do such as this:


http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...180336&posts=3

after 3 years of great reliablity, it's time to drop this charade about Merc being "hi-strung" - they work just as well with a much better user interface...

[Southshore Marine Service]

Gotsha Glen. Like I said in my post I do not want anyone to get there undies in a bunch as I know everyone has their fav motors it was just an opinion. I read the thread on THT about the Yam problems and that is a serious problem that needs to be addressed asap just like the 300hpdi problems. I have seen many of those apart. I was just stating that over the years how I see it. Merc was a race motor and Yamaha was a work motor. Heck, every motor has its problems, etec lower units, yamaha elect. and 300 probs, and I have seen a couple verado probs as well. I have been very impressed with the Verados thus far, its a hell of a motor and in my opinion state of the art. I would run one in a heart beat. So, don't get bent out of shape I like them all.

[welder]

Well ther ya go , They all are with in a few sec. of each other and the noise levels are all close and the MPG is even very close.

So you could say ............Run what ya brung, Let's go Fishing.

Lester

MC

[glen e]

Originally Posted by welder

Well ther ya go , They all are with in a few sec. of each other and the noise levels are all close and the MPG is even very close.

So you could say ............Run what ya brung, Let's go Fishing.

Lester

MC

Bing..frinkin go! except no 900 lb 300 for me!